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I just can't get over the fact that in order for it to be challenging the AI has to skate 3 times faster than you and even faster than you with speed burst on, Gaborik should not get beat to a race for the puck by some 4th line goon yet it will happen in nhl 09, You also will never win an icing race.. Most of the goals scored against you will be infact from breaks/rushes which you have no chance of keeping up with I do love the secondary analog shotstick but that's all it has going for it. If you like winning every game with a huge margin, go for 09. I can feel much better every strategy than I can feel in NHL04.